Friday, June 8, 2012


What Jesus allegedly did as miracles !
And a Parable gone awry and foul !

[1] BerBible -- NASB

Matthew 14
14    When He went ashore, He saw a large crowd, and felt compassion for them and healed their sick.
15    When it was evening, the disciples came to Him and said, "This place is desolate and the hour is already late; so send the crowds away, that they may go into the villages and buy food for themselves."
16    But Jesus said to them, "They do not need to go away; you give them something to eat!"
17    They *said to Him, "We have here only five loaves and two fish."
18    And He said, "Bring them here to Me."
19    Ordering the people to sit down on the grass, He took the five loaves and the two fish, and looking up toward heaven, He blessed the food, and breaking the loaves He gave them to the disciples, and the disciples gave them to the crowds,
20    and they all ate and were satisfied. They picked up what was left over of the broken pieces, twelve full baskets.
21    There were about five thousand men who ate, besides women and children.

In contrast with a older version of the same miracle, and what other Gospels said or have written !

What happens is that the numbers are fixed up from 7 [vii] baskets to 12 in later versions from the Tyndale version !

Matthew 14 -- Tyndale
The Word -

 13 When Iesus hearde that he departed thence by shippe in to a desert place out of ye waye. And when the people had hearde therof they folowed him afote out of their cities. Matt 12:15; Mark 6:31; Luke 9:10;
 14 And Iesus went forth and sawe moche people and his herte did melte vpon them and he healed of them those that were sicke. John 6:5; Matt 9:36;
 15 When even was come his disciples came to him sayinge. This is a deserte place and the daye is spent: let the people departe yt they maye go into ye tounes and bye them vytayllis. Mark 6:35; Luke 9:12;
 16 But Iesus sayde vnto them. They have no neade to go awaye. Geve ye the to eate.
 17 Then sayde they vnto him: we have here but .v. loves and two fysshes.
 18 And he sayde: bringe the hyther to me.
 19 And he comaunded ye people to syt downe on ye grasse: and toke ye .v. loves and the .ii. fysshes and loked vp to heven and blessed and brake and gave the loves to his disciples and the disciples gave them to ye people. 1Sam 9:13; 20 And they dyd all eate and were suffised. And they gadered vp of ye gobbetes that remayned vii. basketes full. 21 And they yt ate werein nobre about .v.M. men besyde wemen and chyldren.
 20 And they dyd all eate and were suffised. And they gadered vp of ye gobbetes that remayned vii. basketes full.
 21 And they yt ate werein nobre about .v.M. men besyde wemen and chyldren.

[2] A parable allegedly said by Jesus gone awry and foul ! :

Ber-Bible -- NASB
Matthew 25: Parable of Ten Virgins
1    "Then the kingdom of heaven will be comparable to ten virgins, who took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom.
2    "Five of them were foolish, and five were prudent.
3    "For when the foolish took their lamps, they took no oil with them,
4    but the prudent took oil in flasks along with their lamps.
5    "Now while the bridegroom was delaying, they all got drowsy and began to sleep.
6    "But at midnight there was a shout, 'Behold, the bridegroom! Come out to meet him.'
7    "Then all those virgins rose and trimmed their lamps.
8    "The foolish said to the prudent, 'Give us some of your oil, for our lamps are going out.'
9    "But the prudent answered, 'No, there will not be enough for us and you too; go instead to the dealers and buy some for yourselves.'
10    "And while they were going away to make the purchase, the bridegroom came, and those who were ready went in with him to the wedding feast; and the door was shut.
11    "Later the other virgins also came, saying, 'Lord, lord, open up for us.'
12    "But he answered, 'Truly I say to you, I do not know you.'
13    "Be on the alert then, for you do not know the day nor the hour.

TYNDALE - The Word
 1 Then ye kyngdome of heven shalbe lykened vnto .x. virgins which toke their lampes and wet to mete the brydgrome:
 2 fyve of them were folysshe and fyve were wyse.
 3 The folysshe toke their lampes but toke none oyle wt the.
 4 But ye wyse tooke oyle wt the in their vesselles wt their lampes also.
 5 Whill the brydgrome taryed all slombred and slepte.
 6 And even at mydnyght there was a crye made: beholde the brydgrome cometh goo out against him.
 7 Then all those virgins arose and prepared their lampes.
 8 And ye folysshe sayde to ye wyse: geve vs of youre oyle for our lampes goo out?
 9 but ye wyse answered sayinge. Not so lest ther be not ynough for vs and you: but goo rather to them yt sell and by for youre selves.
 10 And whill they went to bye ye brydgrome came: and they yt were redy went in with him to ye weddinge and the gate was shett vp:
 11 Afterwardes came also ye other virgins sayinge: master master open to vs.
 12 But he answered and sayde: verely I saye vnto you: I knowe not you. Matt 7:23; Luke 13:25;
 13 Watche therefore: for ye knowe nether the daye nor yet the houre when the sonne of man shall come. Matt 24:42; Mark 13:33; Mark 13:35;

... so as to more analysis of big Bible failures if not edition errors, literature studies are very fascinating to me ! that is if the Bible be literature !

... a bible theologian scholar would allege that the original parchments do not have this difference/error...! i would answer: where did this alleged original come from ? i would believe more TYNDALE, for some reason, due to such a miracle, of one time occurrence...!

... the analysis of such a miracle of feeding 5000 [five thousand] humans, mind you, it sure is a miracle, unless a very rich man supplied so much food hiddenly...! anyway, miracles were of old times and none are done today as to direct power from somebody ! though miracles as lucky happenings do happen !

... also to your surprise : why do these accounts of jesus have to be the same in numbers between the gospels...! the perfection of the story, or the obvious fix up, proves them wrong...! you could expect humans to make mistakes in counting the baskets left over...! but no, it was a supposed to be perfect "inspired" by the holy spirit of god books ! but it clearly says: if all that jesus did, had been written about, as a non inspired account of his activities...! notably the bible writers lack knowledge in meaning of what you imply when you say something, or what can be implied...!

... as to the 10 virgins 'emphasized', the number "x" is clearly ten (10)...!

... the gone awry and foul about this book, is too many virgins waiting for a bridegroom, in one go, and too many left behind, for a too stupid reason: their lamps went out in the night...!

AND AS ALWAYS, TECHNICALITIES ARE NOT SO PROBLEMATIC, AS THE WRONG LOGIC OF IT ALL...! Lets leave it as "male-chauvinism", with a whack of dependent 'virgins', that if they were not 'virgins', they might not get married to ! and the shear reason of waiting somewhere for a bridegroom to come, to one place household, and then leave to where...? this waiting place is illogical for so many women, of different families...! unless it was a true whore house or other obscenity, or room of a similar to a king [Book of Esther and King Solomon], looking for wives, turned "holy into a parable"...!

... This Book of the Bible of St. Mathew is key to proof of Big Bible problems...!